Ultimately, the mechanical systems within the Shimano 105 groupset are of a lower grade, meaning that this groupset does not shift as smoothly as Shimano Ultegra… Shimano’s new 105 (5700) and new Ultegra (6700) are both great groups for road and triathlon use. • Tourney. They each feature a tension adjustment screw, which means there's no need for an inline barrel adjuster. Required fields are marked *. For the latest versions of its top three groupsets, Dura-Ace, Ultegra and 105, Shimano has incorporated its Shadow technology, brought over from the mountain bike side of the business. Close. It is an ingenious system that allows the rider to brake and change gears up and down with one hand. Like this site? The new 105 design ensures a great shift quality is maintained. All of them use the same bolt circle diameter (110mm) so you can easily swap a 53-tooth outer chainring for a 50-tooth, for example. The speed of innovation in groupsets means most of them to get outdated within five years or less. The groupset also features most of the same technology you would find on the more expensive Ultegra. Commonly referred to as the “working man’s groupset”, 105 is the most popular groupset option. We awarded both Shimano 105 and Ultegra 10/10 for performance, and we give out very few 10/10 marks. I've been using the brakes on my race bike, which has Swiss Side Hadron 485 wheels that have an alloy brake track, and the brake performance is about as good as you're going to find for a rim brake. In key areas, the Ultegra and 105 chainsets use the same materials and technology. There’s no reason why you can’t use an Ultegra cassette with an otherwise 105 groupset, or vice versa. Most certainly are - we've had them in Milton Keynes for a while now. It is squarely aimed at intermediate to high-level road riders. Ultegra Di2 uses motor-driven mechanics at the rear and front derailleurs to provide a perfect and crisp shift. You'll also need to factor in £55.98 for two Shimano 105-level disc rotors, or £99.98 for two Ultegra-level rotors to complete the package. The aim of road.cc buyer's guides is to give you the most, authoritative, objective and up-to-date buying advice. Both 105 and Ultegra are 11-speed systems. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. It releases the cable for the derailleur to move in the opposite direction. Email John with comments, corrections or queries. We want you to be happy with what you buy, so we only include a product in a if we think it's one of the best of its kind. As for performance, the main difference between 105 and Ultegra (mechanical) is weight and looks. It is made to balance the braking force through each arm giving you better power and control. These differences make for a difference in weight, but we're talking about 23-35g, depending on the size of the cassette. Also, according to Shimano’s website Ultegra’s wider crankset design permits frame manufacturers to build wider bottom brackets—the part between the pedals inside the frame—and thus … With both 105 and Ultegra, the largest sprocket you can officially use is a 34-tooth, although in truth you can go much larger than that; we have gear systems with 11-40 cassettes that work very happily. Both Ultegra and 105 (below) rear derailleurs are available in short cage (SS) and medium cage (GS) versions to suit the chainset and cassette that you are using. The BBR60 (77g) is available in both British and Italian threaded versions, while the BB72-41 (69g) is for press-fit systems. Shimano have remained leaders of the pack over many years for good reason- they offer fantastic products across the price spectrum. Archived. The question is which groupset is the best? Although Ultegra is more expensive, all of the same technology features in 105, and you operate them in exactly the same way. Operation is the same. Our mission is to bring you all the news that’s relevant to you as a cyclist, independent reviews, impartial buying advice and more. Well done to Great Ormond Street. Ultegra components are also stiffer, meaning that the bike doesn’t “flex” under the load of hard pedaling, wasting energy. Read our Shimano 105 R7020 hydraulic disc brake review here. The curve for your index finger is more pronounced and if, like me, you like to wrap your finger around the bar when on the hoods then you'll find it very comfortable. Improvements in current Ultegra groupsets include a very handsome look, flawless shifting, and incredible braking performance. Striving to win? © 2008–present unless otherwise stated. Full Groups. Ultegra components are lighter than 105 components, making climbing easier. He has won his category in Ironman UK 70.3 and finished on the podium in both marathons he has run. The chainrings are a substantive downgrade from Dura-Ace and Ultegra. The 105 system has an aluminium brake lever while it's engineering composite if you go for Ultegra, which is a little lighter. The majority of Shimano’s groupsets are designed to work together. All the same, riders can expect more precise, crisper, and lighter gear shifting combined with more powerful and smoother braking when they opt for high-end components. Sorry, I don't understand the logic of your "childish game". Mat is a Cambridge graduate who did a post-grad in magazine journalism, and he is a winner of the Cycling Media Award for Specialist Online Writer. Typically, the differences between high-end and entry-level groups are a matter of nuance. Although other manufacturers have moved to carbon-fiber cranks, Shimano has maintained using aluminum. The 105 (above) and Ultegra (below) front derailleurs each come with a glass-fibre reinforced plastic outer link, an aluminium inner link, a chrome-plated steel chain guide, and light shifting. Will you notice a difference in the quality of the braking if you opt for more expensive Ultegra? There are no major technological features in the Ultegra groupset that aren’t included in 105. Most serious experienced riders can't tell the difference based upon shifting … The price jump from the mid-range Ultegra to the high dollar Dura Ace is a whopping $700 or more. A case of Shimano 105 vs Ultegra vs Dura-Ace. Components have a major influence on the bike’s total cost. In reviewing the 105 brakes (above) Dave said, “The Shimano symmetrical dual-pivot brakes are, for me, the best road rim brakes out there. The design used is a symmetrical twin pivot system. It used to pivot closer to the rear tire, resulting in interference and rubbing with wide gravel tires. Both Ultegra and 105 SLR EV dual pivot rim brakes are made from anodised aluminium and we rate them very highly. This only saves about 20g. 105 offers a similar level of performance to Ultegra at significantly lower prices. Learn how your comment data is processed. People who appreciate a good bike, for any reason whatsoever, may not have detailed information about the product. We have done thorough research to give you detailed information on both. You can buy a brake calliper and dual control lever separately (see table above) or you can buy a set that includes the lever, the brake calliper and the hose (£249.99 per brake in the case of 105, £309.99 per brake for Ultegra). Even though Shimano hasn’t officially launched 12-speed road components, we all know it’s a matter of time. Both the Ultegra and 105 front derailleurs have been redesigned and use a cam arrangements to actuate the shift, allowing the units to be much more compact than before. • 105 This works only if they share the same number of gears. Our guides include links to websites where you can buy the featured products. Shimano has offered 105-level and Ultegra-level hydraulic disc brakes for some time but it's only recently that designs have actually been incorporated into each of the groupsets. At the same time, Ultegra Di2 is heavier than Dura-Ace Di2. It’s considered a “new road” bike, both the 105 and Ultegra versions have hydraulic disc brakes (yay) the one in 105 comes in a puke green, while the Ultegra comes in a muted grey. Step into the proven platform for competitive peak performance. The latest iteration of Ultegra features both disc and rim brake options. Whereas some chainsets feature a aluminium axle in a 30mm diameter, Shimano uses a steel axle with a 24mm diameter across the board. Shimano Ultegra and 105 are the most popular groupsets among road cyclists all over the world. The latest version of Shimano 105 is called R7000 (the disc brakes are R7020) and the most up to date Ultegra is R8000 (the disc brakes are R8020, the Di2 is R8050 and Di2 with hydraulic disc brakes is R8070). There's no Shimano 105 clutch derailleur. The left-hand lever controls the rear brake and front derailleur. These derailleurs have been designed to use cam arrangements in a bid to actuate the shift. Tel 01225 588855. The body of the hood is a bit bigger, especially at the bottom where the hose exits the lever, but not so much that it's a problem. Considering the price, this is not a deal-breaker. Although the cassette is made using an anodized aluminum locking and carbon/aluminum spider arm, nickel-plated steel is used to make the sprockets. The Ultegra pedals have slightly more stainless steel body plating, designed to reduce flex and wear, and a little more clearance (33° as opposed to 31°). This means the current units are more compact than their predecessors. Shimano 105 r7000 vs Ultegra 6800. This means you can swap a 50-tooth outer chainring for a 53-tooth. The benefits of mechanical shifting include a “more” natural shift feel, decreased cost, and weight reduction. Wow, the fear of mammary glands is still going strong then! The company pioneered the STI (Shimano Total Integration) lever, the most commonly used lever in the market today. Shimano 105 is designed for beginner and intermediate cyclists, whereas Ultegra is designed for professional cyclists. In both cases, the sprockets are made from nickel-plated steel, although an Ultegra cassette has a carbon/aluminium spider arm and an anodised aluminium lockring while a 105 cassette has an aluminium spider and a nickel-plated steel lockring. They work in the same ways, the shaping is the same and so is the engineering. In any bike, the crank is at the heart of making sure your power is converted to forward motion. Soon we shall see 105 level Di2 concerning electronic shifting. The design means when you look at the bike from the rear, the rear derailleur profile is narrower. The shape lets you use only your second finger when braking as you slow. The 105 callipers are not noticeably inferior to the Ultegra brakes in anything other than weight, and even there the difference isn't great.". Currently, there is an official 105 series hydraulic caliper in the brake disc department. Made from aluminum, the Shimano 105 Crank Set is durable and can compete with other similar products made from carbon. The bushings and pivots are smooth, burly, and durable. Ultegra dual control levers have carbon-fibre reinforced plastic brackets and main levers while 105 has glass-fibre reinforced plastic brackets and aluminium main levers. Shimano’s 105 R7000 and R7020 groupsets deliver nearly all the performance of Ultegra R8000 in a slightly heavier and less refined feeling, but considerably more affordable, package. Both Shimano 105 and Shimano Ultegra are 11-speed groupsets with the same capacity for sprocket and chainring sizes. You can easily add the remaining fingers for hard braking efforts. MTB Insider Copyright 2021  |  A Venture 4th Media company   |, Main Differences Between Shimano 105 vs Ultegra, Choosing between Electronic or Mechanical Groupsets, Shimano 105 dual control levers weigh 500g, whereas Ultegra weighs 438, Shimano 105 brakes cost around 50$, whereas Ultegra cost approximately $130. On the downside, the two-position brake quick release may not suit your taste and the barrel adjuster is a bit finicky. Mat has been road.cc technical editor for over a decade, testing bikes, fettling the latest kit, and trying out the most up-to-the-minute clothing. People have stated that they have had issues when they relied on a long swingarm. • Sora As per the title: I stripped the bike down for a good clean and this included pulling the rear mech to bits. As a very broad generalization, 105 groups will often be found on bikes in the $1,000-3,000 range, Ultegra groups on bikes in the $2,500-4,500 … By the time you have everything in place to make the system work, you will be near the price point of buying a ready-made system from SRAM. It works brilliantly whichever you choose. If you want it, your decision is between Ultegra Di2 and Dura-Ace Di2, and that’s outside the scope of this article. If you like road.cc, but you don’t like ads, please consider subscribing to the site to support us directly. The maximum tyre width Shimano recommends for its Ultegra (above) and 105 SLR EV Dual Pivot brakes (below) is 28mm. • Ultegra The 105 and Ultegra chainsets use the same technology and the same materials in key areas. Its design means that the rear derailleur profile is much narrower when you look at the bike from the rear, sitting 12mm closer to the bike when in the bottom sprocket of the cassette. 1. Your subscription will help us to do more. It may be a factor to consider if the budget is more important than performance. Explore the complete archive of reviews of groupsets on road.cc. This reduces the possibility of chain rub as you move across the cassette. Once set up, we found 105 shifting to be precise and consistent across the whole cassette. Begge mangler en skrue eller 2 105 100kr Ultegra … Road.cc buyer's guides are maintained and updated by John Stevenson. Unfortunately, every cyclist has their opinion on the best groupset. For instance, Shimano has Di2 which stands for Digital Integrated Intelligence. It works via wires attached to the derailleurs and shifters to transfer a signal. For instance, frames with acute angles and long frame tubes make cable installation difficult. Previous versions of front derailleurs were popular for their excellent front shift quality. Whether the small weight saving you get with Ultegra is worth the extra cash is something you have to decide for yourself based on your bank balance and your priorities. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc Ultegra features an adjustment screw meaning you do not need an inline barrel adjuster. The downside is mechanical shifting is not flawless since it relies on cables. [This article was last updated on January 11, 2021]. "The shape allows you to use just your second finger for braking to slow down, and to quickly add all your fingers for hard braking efforts.". If you are not sure, it is better to err on the longer side. If you are looking to purchase one and are having problems making a decision, you have come to the right place. The largest chainring recommended for use with each of them is 53-tooth. They're similar to one another in terms of materials although the Ultegra model has better pulley bearings. Building off their success with the Ultegra WH-6800 wheelset, the WH-RS500 Tubeless Clincher Wheelset provides Ultegra-level performance at a price that will leave room in your wallet for the new R8000 … The 105 chainset's outer chainring is heavily machined on the inside face to reduce weight, retaining splines across the machined section to make sure stiffness isn't compromised. It is the only company with the ability to pull off a mid-level electronic groupset. Here's some more information on how road.cc makes money. Hollowtech technology from Shimano allows the Ultegra to retain stiffness while keeping the weight low. Ultegra front derailleurs come with light shifting, a chrome-plated steel chain guide, aluminum inner link, and glass-fiber reinforced plastic outer link. If you are not tight on money and your bike’s frame is electronic compatible, upgrading to electronic shifting is worth the investment if the groupset is worn out. Shimano, the clear market leader, has the largest range of road specific groupsets. The 105 cassette uses a ‘spider arm’ to reduce weight for the three largest cogs. They’re slim and comfortable to use with a short stroke and a light action (much lighter than earlier incarnations). The previous versions of the same had problems with tire clearance. For professionals, the combined difference in weight and performance makes it worth the investment. I presume that these are to wear with super-duper-skinny hipster jeans and no socks...? According to Beginner Triathlete, Ultegra group sets weigh roughly 280g, or half a pound less than a 105 gruppo. The biggest one level egregious difference in price of the entire Shimano drivetrains is the 105 and Ultetegra. 105 cassettes (above) are available in 11-28-tooth, 11-30, 11-32, 11-34 and 12-25 options. Ultegra derailleurs are available in the medium cage (GS) and short cage (SS) versions to suit the cassette and chainset you are using. There is a difference in the materials used. For instance, Shimano’s 105 11-speed groupset is heavier than Dura-Ace’s equivalent. If you don’t want to subscribe, please turn your ad blocker off. The main difference between previous and current versions is the shape. Shimano also offers direct mount brakes in both the Ultegra and the 105 groupsets. When it comes to single (1x) chainring systems, Shimano isn’t officially on board for road cycling. If you’ve read everything above, looked at the pictures, and come to the conclusion that there’s not all that much difference between 105 and Ultegra components, you’re right. Shimano recommends the same bottom bracket whether you go for an Ultegra or a 105 groupset. We marked Ultegra 7/10 for value while giving 105 9/10 courtesy of offering a very similar level of performance at a significantly lower price. The design is a bit more susceptible to storing grime in all the recesses but that's not a huge issue. Additionally, the chainring is of higher quality as it features a two-piece construction. Shopping tip: check out Decathlon's workshop spares section, often the cheapest source for single levers. Now pushing 50, he's riding road and gravel bikes most days for fun and fitness rather than training for competitions. As well as the normal rear derailleurs, Shimano offers clutch-operated Ultegra RX options (£89.99 for the cable-operated version, £259.99 for the Di2 version) which are aimed at the gravel/adventure market. The differences are mainly down to materials used, and because of this 105 components are a little heavier. The 105 … With this in mind, it is equal parts reliable and durable. Despite Shimano 105 being the first of Shimano’s 11-speed performance products, it has long been considered the everyman groupset of cycling, so it’s hugely exciting that it has received a significant overhaul. Check out the information below to understand what you need to know about the product. They have a very solid feel and modulation is excellent. Although many rivals have shifted to carbon-fibre cranks, Shimano has stuck with aluminium. The dual control levers are high points of both the Ultegra and 105 (above) groupsets and they each work in exactly the same way. A Shimano 105 groupset with rim brakes retails at £612.91 (without pedals) while an equivalent Shimano Ultegra groupset is £982.91 (without pedals) – that’s £370 more, but what do you actually get for the extra money? The only difference between them is that the 105 chain has this treatment on the roller link plates (the inner ones) only while the Ultegra chain (above) has it on the pin link plates (the outer ones) too. The brake callipers are very similar to one another, although the body on the 105 version is painted while it's anodised for Ultegra. As usual, there’s a slight weight penalty if you go for 105. We’ve noticed you’re using an ad blocker. Another advantage of upgrading your groupset is saving some weight. If you want to upgrade to an 11-speed group from a 10-speed group, you may need new wheels to make your bike compatible. Table comparing the prices and weights of Shimano 105 and Shimano Ultegra components. This is technology that started off in the top-level Dura-Ace groupset and has trickled down via Ultegra. The Ultegra design is compatible with direct mount frames despite their low number in the road sector. We continuously update and republish our guides, checking prices, availability and looking for the best deals. Present-day Ultegra groupsets present a host of real improvements. Going from the top, Shimano's current road groupsets are: • Dura-Ace Posted by 11 months ago. Mixing and matching of components across different model levels is nothing new, but only recently did I hear an … Shifting in this case uses cables that are attached to the shifters. The Ultegra and 105 (below) pedals both have wide carbon composite bodies, widely spaced bearings, chromoly steel axles and adjustable entry and release tension. This does not mean they will stop working, but finding replacements will become a challenge. That might or might not be important to you. SRAM is more of a high-end level segment. For pros and other serious riders. They all use the same bolt circle diameter of 110mm. As a subscriber you can read road.cc ad-free, from as little as £1.99. Take note 105 doesn’t have a clutch-equipped derailleur. The revenue from adverts helps to fund our site. Overhauled in 2018, the R7000 is designed for the intermediate level road rider. The main challenge of mechanical shifting may arise when using some types of frames. STI levers allow multiple shifts meaning you don’t need to move your hand’s position to change gears or slow down. Check out our Complete Guide to Shimano Road Groupsets. Den ene 105 er brugt meget lidt, den anden er ny. Shimano’s’ Shadow design, originally designed for mountain bikes, has been used to update the new rear derailleur. On the plus side, the new ring has been machined out on the backside giving it a good shift despite it not giving a Dura-Ace “instant shift.” Shimano chainring sizes hit the popular choices of 50/34, 52/36, and 53/39. The new design is compatible with direct mount frames, although there aren't many of those in the road sector right now. Any avid bike rider knows Shimano makes great brakes. Anodized aluminum is the material used to make the dual-pivot rim brakes. No major technological features are in the Ultegra that are not in the 105. If you care about either enough to pay more for the group, go ahead … Your index finger’s curve is more pronounced. Generally, Shimano groupsets last for long, about 30K miles, especially if you are not an avid bike rider. Oft wird der Vergleich von der 105 zu der nächsthöheren Shimano-Gruppe Ultegra gezogen. It's crisp and light whether you're using the short cage or the medium cage rear derailleur. When it comes to cranks Shimano is king. Both Ultegra 6800 and Shimano 105 R5800 could give 11 speeds and you may get up to five different options in the cassette range. Both 105 and Ultegra are 11-speed systems and there are many more similarities between them than differences. The R8020/R8070 Di2 groupsets are slightly heavier than the mechanical options. Working with different groupsets makes it possible to mix componentry. Help us to make it better. SHIMANO road competition technologies are the ultimate shoe-and-pedal combination … According to Ultegra, the largest sprocket you can use is a 34-tooth. It consists of shifters, derailleurs, brakes, cassette (rear cogs), chain, chainrings (front cogs), and cranks. If you like wrapping your finger around the bar you will find it quite comfortable. So how does this work? Following the design of the Ultegra R8000 rear derailleur launched the year before, the 105 R7000 is a radical departure from previous 105 derailleurs and looks very different from the Tiagra unit. The main differences between Shimano 105 vs Ultegra are: There has been a lot of unconfirmed information regarding Shimano 105 all over the internet. Both 105 and Ultegra (below) are available with 53-39-tooth, 52-36-tooth and 50-34-tooth chainrings, and Ultegra is also available in a 46-36-tooth cyclocross option. The 105 chainset (below) has a spider with four unevenly spaced arms, the idea being to provide stiffness where it’s needed while saving weight over a five arm design. They run through the frame, externally or internally, to the rear and front derailleurs. Worth spending more? It is okay for most people. Tooth chainrings for the Ultegra include 50-34, 52-36, 53-39, and the option of a 46-36 cyclocross. • Tiagra Shimano usually updates each groupset every three years. We have researched the various 105 groupset parts to give you an insight into everything Shimano 105. Being 11-speed systems, Ultegra cassettes are available in 14 – 28,12 – 25, 11 – 25, 11 – 34, 11 – 32, 11 – 30, and 11 – 28 – tooth options. We quote official recommended retail prices here, of course, but we've also included typical online prices. SRAM Rival 1 is the way to go if you prefer a single chainring. But the reasons to compare 105 and Ultegra go beyond that. The right-hand lever controls the front brake and front derailleur. They’re essentially the same design: a symmetrical twin pivot system that’s designed to equalise the braking forces through each arm allowing for better control and power. The differences are minor and mostly come down to materials. Both use hollow forged rings, while the current 105 has been machined out on the backside. They have dual control levers that come with aluminum main levers and plastic brackets reinforced with carbon-fiber. Go for Shimano if you are a leisure biker and SRAM if your riding is professional. Additionally, Dura-Ace and Ultegra are available with Di2 electronic shifting. There are gear systems with 11 – 40 cassettes that work well with Ultegra. We’ll leave Di2 to one side here because there’s no 105 version to consider. MTB Insider Copyright 2021  |  A Venture 4th Media company   |  Privacy Policy. Find out how these two super-popular groupsets compare before you spend your cash, Best Cycling Website, BikeBiz Awards 2018, Check out our full Shimano 105 review here, read our full Shimano Ultegra review here, check out Decathlon's workshop spares section, Here's some more information on how road.cc makes money, Email John with comments, corrections or queries, in: Decathlon to stock new Santini UCI World Champs collection, in: Cyclist abused after asking others not to ride in groups, in: Near Miss of the Day 529: Close pass on country lane, in: Latest Zwift update includes improvements to large events, in: Brexit and the bike industry: how the situation is evolving, in: Female ex-pro denied men's team role due to nude pics, in: Tracey Neuls GEEK Reflective Black Cycle Sneaker, in: Great Ormond St Hospital rated gold for cycle-friendliness. Both Shimano 105 and Shimano Ultegra are 11-speed groupsets with the same capacity for sprocket and chainring sizes, Shimano Ultegra is a bit more refined that Shimano 105, with lighter materials in some areas and details like more durable coatings on some parts, Nevertheless, the weight difference is surprisingly small, less than 200g for a typical ensemble; most of the difference is in the brake/shift levers and chainset, Features trickle down from Shimano's pro-level Dura-Ace groupset, so its next refresh will tell us what to expect the following years from Ultegra and 105, The executive summary: Ultegra is a bit lighter and more durable; it's the way to go if you're racing or logging mega miles and can't afford Dura-Ace, but for most riders 105 does the job admirably. The short cage works best with 25 – 30 tooth large cogs. If you still want to use mechanical disk brakes, there are options such as Shimano CX77, Avid BB7 Road, and TRP Spyre. Check out our full Shimano 105 review here and read our full Shimano Ultegra review here. Take note you can use an Ultegra cassette with a 105 groupset and vice versa. If you don’t mind paying a 260g penalty, then you can consider the Ultegra over the 105 or Dura-Ace. Answer: It is a closed circuit in a bike responsible for propelling and stopping the bike. The current Shimano 105 has features that ensure your bike meets or even surpasses, other competitors. Current designs use a 4-bolt design, unlike the previous chainring design. We recommend the 105 if you want two rings and you are on a budget. Shimano 105 vs Ultegra. In the big picture, the Ultegra group is 220 grams lighter (which is a little more than ½ a pound) and costs $300 more than the 105 … Each bike groupset manufacturer offers multiple electrical and mechanical options using different operating procedures and names. Such frames also decrease the performance of the whole system especially if it is not adjusted regularly.

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